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	<title>Comments on: Oh, And About Bill Bennett</title>
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		<title>By: Ben G.</title>
		<link>http://hungryblues.net/2005/10/02/oh-and-about-bill-bennett/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 23:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca, you're the second person I've seen object to lumping Adrew Sullivan in with the likes of Coulter and Limbaugh. Frankly, I have not read him enough to have a considered opinion. Given your and the other objection I saw elsewhere, I'll certainly suspend judgment on Sullivan until I know better. I think Neiwert's point about transmitters is still relevant, even if he is off-base on one of his examples.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca, you&#8217;re the second person I&#8217;ve seen object to lumping Adrew Sullivan in with the likes of Coulter and Limbaugh. Frankly, I have not read him enough to have a considered opinion. Given your and the other objection I saw elsewhere, I&#8217;ll certainly suspend judgment on Sullivan until I know better. I think Neiwert&#8217;s point about transmitters is still relevant, even if he is off-base on one of his examples.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://hungryblues.net/2005/10/02/oh-and-about-bill-bennett/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 23:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really disagree about Andrew Sullivan - he is not a transmitter of a further-right ideology. Read his blog more carefully - because of Bush's stance on gay rights, he voted for Kerry. Because of the Catholic Church's stance on gay right, he left the church. He has been steadfastly denouncing the torture of prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere, and has been calling for an open, honest investigation into what's been going on. He is a conservative, and a supporter of the Iraq war - but he is not transmitting a farther-right ideology. You can see this especially when he publishes e-mails sent to him by his farther-right wing readers who denounce him venomously. You might disagree with him - hey, I don't agree with everything he says - but read him more carefully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really disagree about Andrew Sullivan - he is not a transmitter of a further-right ideology. Read his blog more carefully - because of Bush&#8217;s stance on gay rights, he voted for Kerry. Because of the Catholic Church&#8217;s stance on gay right, he left the church. He has been steadfastly denouncing the torture of prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere, and has been calling for an open, honest investigation into what&#8217;s been going on. He is a conservative, and a supporter of the Iraq war - but he is not transmitting a farther-right ideology. You can see this especially when he publishes e-mails sent to him by his farther-right wing readers who denounce him venomously. You might disagree with him - hey, I don&#8217;t agree with everything he says - but read him more carefully.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben G.</title>
		<link>http://hungryblues.net/2005/10/02/oh-and-about-bill-bennett/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon, I saw the movie, and I vaguely recall the cartoon, but I can't get it clear in my memory...



Phaedrus, your comment is great b/c it makes it clear how the transmitter thing works. Well known "legitimate" conservative makes blatantly racist remark an insists it is a legitimate non-racist thing to say and then seeds the meme everywhere. And right now, with all that is at stake for African Americans in NOLA, what was sort of whispered and insinuated to justify white land grabs and redevelopment of Black  areas now gets to be part of the mainstream debate. (Also in lots of other cities where the non-apocalyptic version of racist and classist urban redevelopment schemes are par for the course.)



I also think we're letting Bennett off too easy on the "you could abort every black baby in this country" portion of his comments. For one thing, he's fantasizing about genocide. Call me prejudiced but I don't like people who fantasize about genocide—even if after they finish fantasizing they say, "but, oh I would never really do &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt;..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon, I saw the movie, and I vaguely recall the cartoon, but I can&#8217;t get it clear in my memory&#8230;</p>
<p>Phaedrus, your comment is great b/c it makes it clear how the transmitter thing works. Well known &#8220;legitimate&#8221; conservative makes blatantly racist remark an insists it is a legitimate non-racist thing to say and then seeds the meme everywhere. And right now, with all that is at stake for African Americans in NOLA, what was sort of whispered and insinuated to justify white land grabs and redevelopment of Black  areas now gets to be part of the mainstream debate. (Also in lots of other cities where the non-apocalyptic version of racist and classist urban redevelopment schemes are par for the course.)</p>
<p>I also think we&#8217;re letting Bennett off too easy on the &#8220;you could abort every black baby in this country&#8221; portion of his comments. For one thing, he&#8217;s fantasizing about genocide. Call me prejudiced but I don&#8217;t like people who fantasize about genocide—even if after they finish fantasizing they say, &#8220;but, oh I would never really do <em>that</em>&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Phaedrus</title>
		<link>http://hungryblues.net/2005/10/02/oh-and-about-bill-bennett/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaedrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You gotta helluva a point there, that Bennett's acting as a transmitter.  I focused on the racism of directly linking black skin color to the crime rate, and I wish I had a buck for every right wing commenter I've seen call that part of his statement "unimpeachable truth" or some variation on that.  And I don't even read that many right wing commenters.  He's helped empower the semi-closeted racists, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You gotta helluva a point there, that Bennett&#8217;s acting as a transmitter.  I focused on the racism of directly linking black skin color to the crime rate, and I wish I had a buck for every right wing commenter I&#8217;ve seen call that part of his statement &#8220;unimpeachable truth&#8221; or some variation on that.  And I don&#8217;t even read that many right wing commenters.  He&#8217;s helped empower the semi-closeted racists, for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 15:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you remember that little cartoon history of the United States in Bowling for Columbine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you remember that little cartoon history of the United States in Bowling for Columbine?</p>
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