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	<title>Comments on: St. Petersburg Police Bind Hands And Feet Of 5-Year-Old African-American Girl</title>
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		<title>By: Dre</title>
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		<description>This is wrong. She was 5 years old. She is a human not a wild animal. Let&#039;s be real. 3 policemen &amp; 2 other adults need to handcuff a 5 year old girl? NO. Get it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is wrong. She was 5 years old. She is a human not a wild animal. Let&#8217;s be real. 3 policemen &amp; 2 other adults need to handcuff a 5 year old girl? NO. Get it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackwell Raines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackwell Raines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 08:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continuing in the dialog of the civilization--the 5-year-old, Ja&#039;eisha Scott, is a child to all of society. Our outrage should not solely exist because she is African American, but because she is first, a human being, and secondly, one who is to become a nurturer, a mother, of a yet-unborn new generation.



And there is also another reason: the great charters--Constitution, Bill of Rights--of U.S. democracy can&#039;t just be real and consequential for some, and mere half-remembered school history for others. A basic premise in all the talk of government is the dignity of personhood. And yes, this principle extends to the very young, especially to a 5-year old, who cannot speak for themselves, or process through the events of an heavily-handcuffed arrest by three uniformed adults.



This doctrine comes with the expectation that every citizen is to be treated and accorded the equality of respect that comes with being a human being and citizen. It regards each person as an equal unit of importance because that person exist, not because given members of an institution chooses to disqualify certain persons based upon ethnic and socioeconomic grounds.



In the world of police science, an arrest occurs with the handcuffing of an individual--double cuffing, hands and feet, indicate something even more sinister.  This, by the standards of those doing the criminalizing, is criminalizing.  It is yet another reason for it to be unthinkable to befall the middle class white female child--the child is simply considered too valued. 



A state away, over the weekend, a middle class white female was reported to have petpetuated a hoax: runaway bride: &quot;bride-to-be gets cold feet,&quot; decides to disappear. Kidnapping was suspected, and later with the surfacing of the would-be bride, an alleged fabricated story was told to authorities. The search for the missing bride had involved 100 people on various government levels.  Yet, upon learning of the fabrication, and seeing the bride-to-be arrive safely back in her hometown, there has been little criticism.  In a carefully crafted statement, the police, called the experience most stressing--that is, for the bride-to-be.  No charges have been filed the 32-year-old.



Institutions have long memories, and carry out their own aims and goals.  The 5-year-old, acting up in kindergarten, is quickly claimed as disposable.  The 32-year-old is deemed valued, and even criticism of her actions is muted, despite learning her disappearance a hoax.  Accordingly, we&#039;re told the 32-year-old needs to have private time with her family, given the stress of it all. (Part of her disappearance was to Vegas.)



Two headline-grabbing examples, with the dignity of personhood being honored in one case, and summarily dismissed in the other, despite one being a very young child.  But both are female.



In both instances, the institutions made judgment calls--they expressed harsh, severe reaction based upon the perceived social value of one person, while with the other, expressions of leniency, sympathetic support and even empathy, applying a different social value.



Interesting to note, there exist another disparity between the stories, on a different level: the 32-year-old received no heavy negative commentary of having been spoiled, of being overly privileged, or simply, of being too selfish, although much had been spent and scheduled for her Saturday wedding, and equally, much expense given in searching for her.



Last year, Tony Snow, then the host of &quot;Fox Sunday News,&quot; provided a commentary, in which he said, &quot;Racism is dead.&quot;  He cited a couple of viewers, writing into the program, who had expressed agreement.  What other support of this contention?  None.  It was anecdotal.  No statistical scientific support. Here, I believe, is a prime example of the media, having one of its goals aired--simply wishing racism to go away for the sake of ratings and ease of reporting.  To report on race and racism are complex underakings.  Or, as the Today Show&#039;s Katey Couric asked one civil rights thinker, &quot;Why do we have to re-open old wounds.&quot; Her question really begged another question, What is the state of race and racism in America?  



The media is a firm member of society&#039;s set of institutions which are among the first to hear the cries and protests against violations of the dignity of personhood.



Criticisms leveled against the mother of the 5-year-old are also anecdotal, and worst.  They are too ready, too often, to cavalierly dismiss the brutalization of a 5-year-old as of no real consequence, a necessary function of order.  They provide the strawperson argument that protests against criminalization and brutalization of minorites by institutions is, in reality, no more than an attempt to manufacture cover for wrongdoing. Even an excuse for malcontents.



It should be note that brutalization and criminalization is rarely defined by the administering of physical blows.  This is why adults can win litigation efforts after citing &quot;mental anguish&quot; and &quot;emotional abuse.&quot;



At Harvard University&#039;s institute for housing, there is for the reading public, results of a 5-year multidisciplinary study on housing stock trends.  One of the findings of the study was this--there is &quot;systemic discrimination&quot; surrounding &quot;jobs, housing and education&quot; in the nation.  In such a report, there is no place for the anecdotal.



Behind this systemic form of discrimination is institutional racism; in fact, without this scope, systemic discrimination could not exist. These ominous housing patterns, if we trust the study, really point to a trend boding the re-segregation of America.  



Institutions, having extremely long memories, never have doubted the achievement of the goal--return to the old status quo: a social value system based soley upon race, with only contempt for the dignity of personhood.



It is into this mix of tragedy that fell a 5-year-old girl.



















  











  



 

      







 




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuing in the dialog of the civilization&#8211;the 5-year-old, Ja&#8217;eisha Scott, is a child to all of society. Our outrage should not solely exist because she is African American, but because she is first, a human being, and secondly, one who is to become a nurturer, a mother, of a yet-unborn new generation.</p>
<p>And there is also another reason: the great charters&#8211;Constitution, Bill of Rights&#8211;of U.S. democracy can&#8217;t just be real and consequential for some, and mere half-remembered school history for others. A basic premise in all the talk of government is the dignity of personhood. And yes, this principle extends to the very young, especially to a 5-year old, who cannot speak for themselves, or process through the events of an heavily-handcuffed arrest by three uniformed adults.</p>
<p>This doctrine comes with the expectation that every citizen is to be treated and accorded the equality of respect that comes with being a human being and citizen. It regards each person as an equal unit of importance because that person exist, not because given members of an institution chooses to disqualify certain persons based upon ethnic and socioeconomic grounds.</p>
<p>In the world of police science, an arrest occurs with the handcuffing of an individual&#8211;double cuffing, hands and feet, indicate something even more sinister.  This, by the standards of those doing the criminalizing, is criminalizing.  It is yet another reason for it to be unthinkable to befall the middle class white female child&#8211;the child is simply considered too valued. </p>
<p>A state away, over the weekend, a middle class white female was reported to have petpetuated a hoax: runaway bride: &#8220;bride-to-be gets cold feet,&#8221; decides to disappear. Kidnapping was suspected, and later with the surfacing of the would-be bride, an alleged fabricated story was told to authorities. The search for the missing bride had involved 100 people on various government levels.  Yet, upon learning of the fabrication, and seeing the bride-to-be arrive safely back in her hometown, there has been little criticism.  In a carefully crafted statement, the police, called the experience most stressing&#8211;that is, for the bride-to-be.  No charges have been filed the 32-year-old.</p>
<p>Institutions have long memories, and carry out their own aims and goals.  The 5-year-old, acting up in kindergarten, is quickly claimed as disposable.  The 32-year-old is deemed valued, and even criticism of her actions is muted, despite learning her disappearance a hoax.  Accordingly, we&#8217;re told the 32-year-old needs to have private time with her family, given the stress of it all. (Part of her disappearance was to Vegas.)</p>
<p>Two headline-grabbing examples, with the dignity of personhood being honored in one case, and summarily dismissed in the other, despite one being a very young child.  But both are female.</p>
<p>In both instances, the institutions made judgment calls&#8211;they expressed harsh, severe reaction based upon the perceived social value of one person, while with the other, expressions of leniency, sympathetic support and even empathy, applying a different social value.</p>
<p>Interesting to note, there exist another disparity between the stories, on a different level: the 32-year-old received no heavy negative commentary of having been spoiled, of being overly privileged, or simply, of being too selfish, although much had been spent and scheduled for her Saturday wedding, and equally, much expense given in searching for her.</p>
<p>Last year, Tony Snow, then the host of &#8220;Fox Sunday News,&#8221; provided a commentary, in which he said, &#8220;Racism is dead.&#8221;  He cited a couple of viewers, writing into the program, who had expressed agreement.  What other support of this contention?  None.  It was anecdotal.  No statistical scientific support. Here, I believe, is a prime example of the media, having one of its goals aired&#8211;simply wishing racism to go away for the sake of ratings and ease of reporting.  To report on race and racism are complex underakings.  Or, as the Today Show&#8217;s Katey Couric asked one civil rights thinker, &#8220;Why do we have to re-open old wounds.&#8221; Her question really begged another question, What is the state of race and racism in America?  </p>
<p>The media is a firm member of society&#8217;s set of institutions which are among the first to hear the cries and protests against violations of the dignity of personhood.</p>
<p>Criticisms leveled against the mother of the 5-year-old are also anecdotal, and worst.  They are too ready, too often, to cavalierly dismiss the brutalization of a 5-year-old as of no real consequence, a necessary function of order.  They provide the strawperson argument that protests against criminalization and brutalization of minorites by institutions is, in reality, no more than an attempt to manufacture cover for wrongdoing. Even an excuse for malcontents.</p>
<p>It should be note that brutalization and criminalization is rarely defined by the administering of physical blows.  This is why adults can win litigation efforts after citing &#8220;mental anguish&#8221; and &#8220;emotional abuse.&#8221;</p>
<p>At Harvard University&#8217;s institute for housing, there is for the reading public, results of a 5-year multidisciplinary study on housing stock trends.  One of the findings of the study was this&#8211;there is &#8220;systemic discrimination&#8221; surrounding &#8220;jobs, housing and education&#8221; in the nation.  In such a report, there is no place for the anecdotal.</p>
<p>Behind this systemic form of discrimination is institutional racism; in fact, without this scope, systemic discrimination could not exist. These ominous housing patterns, if we trust the study, really point to a trend boding the re-segregation of America.  </p>
<p>Institutions, having extremely long memories, never have doubted the achievement of the goal&#8211;return to the old status quo: a social value system based soley upon race, with only contempt for the dignity of personhood.</p>
<p>It is into this mix of tragedy that fell a 5-year-old girl.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyshunda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyshunda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fell that we as African American&#039;s, all to often use being black as a excuss, to explain how we were done wrong in some type of way.  Bottom line is that child acted a fool in school.  On more than one occassion.  I feel enough of anything is enough.  Some of you say that it was an act of police brutality.  What brutality, thay restrained her, and sat her down until her mother got there.  They didnt push her around or ruff her up. So how was that brutality?  As to why the mother didnt leave her job and go straight to the school.  Unless you have children, and cant make it without the job you have.  Dont ever ask that question.  She cant just leave work, and lose her only source of imcome, because the school called.  And yes you can lose your job for trying to take care of issues w/ your child (speaking from experiance).  And she wasnt criminalizied, they didnt take her to jail, or put her in a detention facility.  Wake up people, we need to get over this is being done to me because in black.  No, its being done because you did something you had no business doing.  I dont care if she was 5, 15, 25, or 55, she acted out in a way thats not appropriate for anywhere. not just school.  We are not above the low of being punnished beacuse we are black. What that child did was wrong.  Were looking at just her, what about the other students, what about the staff at that school.  Are they to take a chance and let her have another outburst, and harm herself or other students and staff?  I dont think so, school is suppose to be a place of order, they lead by example.  They have to let that child and other children in that school know that, that type of behavior will not be accepted there.  If not we have everybody acting out.  I think we&#039;re trying to make something out of nothing, by using the race card.  If it had happened to a white child, what would any of you, who feel this is so because of her race, have to say then. Would you be saying its wrong to treat a 5 yr old that way.  And if so, just come out and say that.  Leave the dramatics out, by saying its race related.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fell that we as African American&#8217;s, all to often use being black as a excuss, to explain how we were done wrong in some type of way.  Bottom line is that child acted a fool in school.  On more than one occassion.  I feel enough of anything is enough.  Some of you say that it was an act of police brutality.  What brutality, thay restrained her, and sat her down until her mother got there.  They didnt push her around or ruff her up. So how was that brutality?  As to why the mother didnt leave her job and go straight to the school.  Unless you have children, and cant make it without the job you have.  Dont ever ask that question.  She cant just leave work, and lose her only source of imcome, because the school called.  And yes you can lose your job for trying to take care of issues w/ your child (speaking from experiance).  And she wasnt criminalizied, they didnt take her to jail, or put her in a detention facility.  Wake up people, we need to get over this is being done to me because in black.  No, its being done because you did something you had no business doing.  I dont care if she was 5, 15, 25, or 55, she acted out in a way thats not appropriate for anywhere. not just school.  We are not above the low of being punnished beacuse we are black. What that child did was wrong.  Were looking at just her, what about the other students, what about the staff at that school.  Are they to take a chance and let her have another outburst, and harm herself or other students and staff?  I dont think so, school is suppose to be a place of order, they lead by example.  They have to let that child and other children in that school know that, that type of behavior will not be accepted there.  If not we have everybody acting out.  I think we&#8217;re trying to make something out of nothing, by using the race card.  If it had happened to a white child, what would any of you, who feel this is so because of her race, have to say then. Would you be saying its wrong to treat a 5 yr old that way.  And if so, just come out and say that.  Leave the dramatics out, by saying its race related.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blackwell Raines, 



Thanks for your needed antidote to the many other comments that seek to blame the little girl and her mother for this act of police brutality. I thought your comments deserved more attention than they might get in my comments section, so I posted them as a new post on HungryBlues.



If you look around at the other things I&#039;ve posted on this story, you will see (as you may already know) that in addition to the important historical context which you raise, there is ample evidence of broad scale, institutionalized racism at play in the present: a statewide epidemic of arrests of children under 12, with grossly disproportionate numbers of African American children affected; a class action suit against Pinellas County schools on behalf of ALL African American children in the county for an achievement gap between Black and white children that violates equal protection; other heinous examples of African American children being targeted by teachers, administrators, and fellow students for harassment and abuse.



This is a profound human rights crisis. I wish a major human rights organization would address it. On Monday, I think I will call Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blackwell Raines, </p>
<p>Thanks for your needed antidote to the many other comments that seek to blame the little girl and her mother for this act of police brutality. I thought your comments deserved more attention than they might get in my comments section, so I posted them as a new post on HungryBlues.</p>
<p>If you look around at the other things I&#8217;ve posted on this story, you will see (as you may already know) that in addition to the important historical context which you raise, there is ample evidence of broad scale, institutionalized racism at play in the present: a statewide epidemic of arrests of children under 12, with grossly disproportionate numbers of African American children affected; a class action suit against Pinellas County schools on behalf of ALL African American children in the county for an achievement gap between Black and white children that violates equal protection; other heinous examples of African American children being targeted by teachers, administrators, and fellow students for harassment and abuse.</p>
<p>This is a profound human rights crisis. I wish a major human rights organization would address it. On Monday, I think I will call Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackwell Raines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackwell Raines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The incident is St Petersburg, Florida is worthy of us reflecting deeply upon ourselves and the society as a whole.  This blog allows a dialogue of the civilization to be effected, which is most often sorely missing.  This topic of which I speak is the handicuffing by police of a 5-year-old kindergartener.



The handcuffing by strangers, regardless of a 5-year-old&#039;s behavior is a horrific, act of terror.  In fact, if done by family members themselves, in a punitive manner, it would be such--even judged deeply disturbed.  Why?  Well, if every such young child was dealt with in a similar way, when behavior was described as inapprorpiate, imagine the lifetime of emotional scarring. And this is the reason behind middle class children never having to face such treatment--middle class white children, that is.  But minority children seem to draw a particular harsh set of responses from those in charge--one of contempt, one of brutish reaction, and brooding resentment.



Historically, there is nothing new to to such traumatizing and coercive display of force, even against the very young, St Petersburg or anywhere in the state.  Florida&#039;s past is littered with attacks on minority children, black children in particular.  In the days of legal segregation, black children as young as 6-years-old could end up in &quot;convict-lease&quot; system, a conscripted prisoner system, in which work on private projects, such as road construction, was mandatory, six days a week. (PBS.org)  Only black children, and latino children, and the occasional poor white kid, were effected. Such a thing was unthinkable to have happen to the middle class white child.



Individuals may not know their history, the state may elect to exclude such historical facts from hand-picked history books, but institutions, such as police forces, and schools, carry on business as usual, acting smugly and justifiably to criminalize whenever and wherever they deign to do so. 



No unbiased, rational thought can justify criminalizing a 5-year-old in the name of orderliness.  Equally, no society can support the brutalization of its youngest, and expect healthy adults. More, no society can call itself decent and democratic, and yet find ways to crush those of color.



Remember, one police officer, confidently stated that he had given the child&#039;s mother an earlier warning--next time, handcuffs.  To make doubly good on that warning, the little girls&#039;s hands and feet were cuffed.  Now, imagine a little blond white girls in those cuffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The incident is St Petersburg, Florida is worthy of us reflecting deeply upon ourselves and the society as a whole.  This blog allows a dialogue of the civilization to be effected, which is most often sorely missing.  This topic of which I speak is the handicuffing by police of a 5-year-old kindergartener.</p>
<p>The handcuffing by strangers, regardless of a 5-year-old&#8217;s behavior is a horrific, act of terror.  In fact, if done by family members themselves, in a punitive manner, it would be such&#8211;even judged deeply disturbed.  Why?  Well, if every such young child was dealt with in a similar way, when behavior was described as inapprorpiate, imagine the lifetime of emotional scarring. And this is the reason behind middle class children never having to face such treatment&#8211;middle class white children, that is.  But minority children seem to draw a particular harsh set of responses from those in charge&#8211;one of contempt, one of brutish reaction, and brooding resentment.</p>
<p>Historically, there is nothing new to to such traumatizing and coercive display of force, even against the very young, St Petersburg or anywhere in the state.  Florida&#8217;s past is littered with attacks on minority children, black children in particular.  In the days of legal segregation, black children as young as 6-years-old could end up in &#8220;convict-lease&#8221; system, a conscripted prisoner system, in which work on private projects, such as road construction, was mandatory, six days a week. (PBS.org)  Only black children, and latino children, and the occasional poor white kid, were effected. Such a thing was unthinkable to have happen to the middle class white child.</p>
<p>Individuals may not know their history, the state may elect to exclude such historical facts from hand-picked history books, but institutions, such as police forces, and schools, carry on business as usual, acting smugly and justifiably to criminalize whenever and wherever they deign to do so. </p>
<p>No unbiased, rational thought can justify criminalizing a 5-year-old in the name of orderliness.  Equally, no society can support the brutalization of its youngest, and expect healthy adults. More, no society can call itself decent and democratic, and yet find ways to crush those of color.</p>
<p>Remember, one police officer, confidently stated that he had given the child&#8217;s mother an earlier warning&#8211;next time, handcuffs.  To make doubly good on that warning, the little girls&#8217;s hands and feet were cuffed.  Now, imagine a little blond white girls in those cuffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admittedly, the site of a 5-year-old being handcuffed is horrendous.  As an educator watching those videos, however, I got a sick feeling at my core to think of myself in that situation.  The teachers/administrators were helpless.  



I agree that handcuffing was completely inappropriate.  I have no opinion on what could&#039;ve been done differently.  I&#039;d like to hear the ideas of those who are so shocked and appalled that this happened as to what they should&#039;ve done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admittedly, the site of a 5-year-old being handcuffed is horrendous.  As an educator watching those videos, however, I got a sick feeling at my core to think of myself in that situation.  The teachers/administrators were helpless.  </p>
<p>I agree that handcuffing was completely inappropriate.  I have no opinion on what could&#8217;ve been done differently.  I&#8217;d like to hear the ideas of those who are so shocked and appalled that this happened as to what they should&#8217;ve done.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an example of a bad parent and a greedy lawyer. The school called the mother at 2:00 and told her what was going on, and the mother said she couldn&#039;t get there until 3:15.  Why?? I am a single, working mother, but if I got a call from my son&#039;s school I would be there asap no matter what. The lawyer who released the tape was just trying to sensationalize the whole thing to line his pockets. Didn&#039;t anyone hone in on the officers comment..&quot;I told you mother I would put the handcuffs on you&quot;.  That tells me this has happened before. With children you cannot make comments and not follow through or they will have no respect for authority. Now is the time to stop this behavior instead of when she if 15 and maybe walks into school with a gun, and just starts shooting. It isn&#039;t about black and white, it is about right and wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an example of a bad parent and a greedy lawyer. The school called the mother at 2:00 and told her what was going on, and the mother said she couldn&#8217;t get there until 3:15.  Why?? I am a single, working mother, but if I got a call from my son&#8217;s school I would be there asap no matter what. The lawyer who released the tape was just trying to sensationalize the whole thing to line his pockets. Didn&#8217;t anyone hone in on the officers comment..&#8221;I told you mother I would put the handcuffs on you&#8221;.  That tells me this has happened before. With children you cannot make comments and not follow through or they will have no respect for authority. Now is the time to stop this behavior instead of when she if 15 and maybe walks into school with a gun, and just starts shooting. It isn&#8217;t about black and white, it is about right and wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dad is a retired elementary principal (1975-1991). He saw kids with behavioral problems, health problems, all kinds of problems. The ones he had the most trouble with were the ones whose parents probably needed some parenting classes. When he had to enforce discipline, he always had to be ready for parents yelling at him for either doing too much or too little.



Teachers have one of the hardest jobs in the world. It may be harder now than it&#039;s ever been. But there&#039;s got to be a better way for Ja&#039;eisha than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dad is a retired elementary principal (1975-1991). He saw kids with behavioral problems, health problems, all kinds of problems. The ones he had the most trouble with were the ones whose parents probably needed some parenting classes. When he had to enforce discipline, he always had to be ready for parents yelling at him for either doing too much or too little.</p>
<p>Teachers have one of the hardest jobs in the world. It may be harder now than it&#8217;s ever been. But there&#8217;s got to be a better way for Ja&#8217;eisha than this.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie,Atlanta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie,Atlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, granted the police may have gone to far with handcuffing this child.  But as an African American parent I&#039;m appalled by this childs behavior. No one seems to be concerned about this child action that led to this whole mess. There may be blame to go around to the school official and the officers. But that mom need to look at her daughter behavior. And one has to wonder what if any discipline goes on at home. I&#039;m sure this child know right from wrong how can she think that her behavior was acceptable or even okay on any level. I&#039;m frustrated because we in the black community need to be careful about crying racism when we first should look at the behavior. This was not a child who was innocently sitting by while adults yelled at her. she was in the wrong!!!! And that needs to be address first!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, granted the police may have gone to far with handcuffing this child.  But as an African American parent I&#8217;m appalled by this childs behavior. No one seems to be concerned about this child action that led to this whole mess. There may be blame to go around to the school official and the officers. But that mom need to look at her daughter behavior. And one has to wonder what if any discipline goes on at home. I&#8217;m sure this child know right from wrong how can she think that her behavior was acceptable or even okay on any level. I&#8217;m frustrated because we in the black community need to be careful about crying racism when we first should look at the behavior. This was not a child who was innocently sitting by while adults yelled at her. she was in the wrong!!!! And that needs to be address first!!</p>
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		<title>By: vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the insight, Tyshunda.  I concur with everything you had to say.  I was watching &quot;A Current Affair&quot; tonight and thought to Google the girl&#039;s name online to try and find more detail about this issue.  I watched all the video and read the news stories.  And while I&#039;m not one to side with popular opinion, I was still oddly curious enough to read into the blogs to get a rough idea of what people are saying about this.  I must say that the only thing I found more appalling than the young girl’s behavior is the assertion that the treatment was because of the girl’s race!  Are you kidding?   That girl’s behavior would’ve been no more or less wrong if she were white.  Furthermore, I don’t think the treatment of that girl would’ve been any different if she were white.  Sure, I can see a gray area here… I can see Paula’s point of view where something was taken away from the parent when the police didn’t appear to reasonably honor the parent’s first right of refusal for discipline.  Then again, put the “here we go again” scenario into context and figure it out, reasonable people:  the mother has essentially been unsuccessful in her attempts to model the behavior of her child (assuming in the first place that she has even made any attempt to identify and/or correct her child’s unacceptable behavior).  What circumstances would ever exist to justify the extent of this girl’s bad behavior?  None that I can think of.  And was the little girl traumatized by being handcuffed?  I won’t doubt that…  but wake up and smell the Ovaltine there, Ja’eisha:  if you don’t listen to and respect authority, there’s a price to pay.  Better to learn this sooner than later lest the consequences become even more severe.  Ja’eisha got of easy.  Maybe too easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the insight, Tyshunda.  I concur with everything you had to say.  I was watching &#8220;A Current Affair&#8221; tonight and thought to Google the girl&#8217;s name online to try and find more detail about this issue.  I watched all the video and read the news stories.  And while I&#8217;m not one to side with popular opinion, I was still oddly curious enough to read into the blogs to get a rough idea of what people are saying about this.  I must say that the only thing I found more appalling than the young girl’s behavior is the assertion that the treatment was because of the girl’s race!  Are you kidding?   That girl’s behavior would’ve been no more or less wrong if she were white.  Furthermore, I don’t think the treatment of that girl would’ve been any different if she were white.  Sure, I can see a gray area here… I can see Paula’s point of view where something was taken away from the parent when the police didn’t appear to reasonably honor the parent’s first right of refusal for discipline.  Then again, put the “here we go again” scenario into context and figure it out, reasonable people:  the mother has essentially been unsuccessful in her attempts to model the behavior of her child (assuming in the first place that she has even made any attempt to identify and/or correct her child’s unacceptable behavior).  What circumstances would ever exist to justify the extent of this girl’s bad behavior?  None that I can think of.  And was the little girl traumatized by being handcuffed?  I won’t doubt that…  but wake up and smell the Ovaltine there, Ja’eisha:  if you don’t listen to and respect authority, there’s a price to pay.  Better to learn this sooner than later lest the consequences become even more severe.  Ja’eisha got of easy.  Maybe too easy.</p>
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