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		<title>By: Ben G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am fortunate not to have suffered abuse from either of my parents. I wish my father could have said the same about his parents. I just started digging around for something he wrote in the 1980s, a prayer of sorts, about his feeling painfully bound to follow the religous commandment to &quot;honor thy mother and father.&quot; When his piece turns up, I&#039;ll post it . . .
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am fortunate not to have suffered abuse from either of my parents. I wish my father could have said the same about his parents. I just started digging around for something he wrote in the 1980s, a prayer of sorts, about his feeling painfully bound to follow the religous commandment to &#8220;honor thy mother and father.&#8221; When his piece turns up, I&#8217;ll post it . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
		<link>http://hungryblues.net/2004/05/09/lunch/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I misread it!  It was you &amp; your grandmother &amp; he was already married to the &quot;other woman.&quot;  But that doesn&#039;t lessen the sense of humiliation yr. grandma must&#039;ve felt.  My heart goes out to her.



BTW, I met Mel Swig (some kind of relation to yr. grandma I presume) a few times in the 1990s because I did fundraising for Brandeis U. &amp; he was a &#039;nominal&#039; board member.  &quot;Nominal&quot; might be unfair, but by the time I knew him he pretty much wanted off the board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I misread it!  It was you &amp; your grandmother &amp; he was already married to the &#8220;other woman.&#8221;  But that doesn&#8217;t lessen the sense of humiliation yr. grandma must&#8217;ve felt.  My heart goes out to her.</p>
<p>BTW, I met Mel Swig (some kind of relation to yr. grandma I presume) a few times in the 1990s because I did fundraising for Brandeis U. &amp; he was a &#8216;nominal&#8217; board member.  &#8220;Nominal&#8221; might be unfair, but by the time I knew him he pretty much wanted off the board.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
		<link>http://hungryblues.net/2004/05/09/lunch/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather approach the poem on a purely human emotional level.  I feel so badly for your mother &amp; you who (if I read the poem right) had to witness your father&#039;s infidelity in a particulary traumatic &amp; humiliating way.



I too endured a humiliating childhood filled with abuse that was emotional &amp; physical at my parents hands.  But there was no infidelity involved in their marriage.  I just wish they had never gotten married to begin with (though I would never have been born &amp; never met my father, who could be quite a nice human being--once we grew up &amp; he stopped taking his tantrums out on us).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather approach the poem on a purely human emotional level.  I feel so badly for your mother &amp; you who (if I read the poem right) had to witness your father&#8217;s infidelity in a particulary traumatic &amp; humiliating way.</p>
<p>I too endured a humiliating childhood filled with abuse that was emotional &amp; physical at my parents hands.  But there was no infidelity involved in their marriage.  I just wish they had never gotten married to begin with (though I would never have been born &amp; never met my father, who could be quite a nice human being&#8211;once we grew up &amp; he stopped taking his tantrums out on us).</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan David Jackson</title>
		<link>http://hungryblues.net/2004/05/09/lunch/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan David Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2004 23:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quotidian delights and the genealogical momment... what&#039;s so magical about this poem--and I must say, Benjamin, if this one and &quot;Frankie Gets Lucky&quot; are any indications, you have emerged into a distinct, deeply meaningful style these days and I might suggest gathering them into a fascicle and sending them to the Poetry Society of America&#039;s chapbook competition or anywhere really--what&#039;s so magical about this poem is the way in which it stays within the experiential moment. It begins with an uncertain address--&quot;I think...embarrassed&quot;--and this uncertainty about the relative is the crux of the poem and it&#039;s ability to capture an unpredictable family moment and at the same time illuminate a character. The reader--me--doesn&#039;t know who is being addressed but this is not some elision. The poem&#039;s vernacular staging allows us to listen in and over hear an everday address broken up, indeed, complicated, by a subtly theatrical recollection; the incident so upsets the rememberer and the &quot;you&quot; that, in fact, they do not engage the quotidian act referenced in the title: that is, lunch. What a wonderful poem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quotidian delights and the genealogical momment&#8230; what&#8217;s so magical about this poem&#8211;and I must say, Benjamin, if this one and &#8220;Frankie Gets Lucky&#8221; are any indications, you have emerged into a distinct, deeply meaningful style these days and I might suggest gathering them into a fascicle and sending them to the Poetry Society of America&#8217;s chapbook competition or anywhere really&#8211;what&#8217;s so magical about this poem is the way in which it stays within the experiential moment. It begins with an uncertain address&#8211;&#8221;I think&#8230;embarrassed&#8221;&#8211;and this uncertainty about the relative is the crux of the poem and it&#8217;s ability to capture an unpredictable family moment and at the same time illuminate a character. The reader&#8211;me&#8211;doesn&#8217;t know who is being addressed but this is not some elision. The poem&#8217;s vernacular staging allows us to listen in and over hear an everday address broken up, indeed, complicated, by a subtly theatrical recollection; the incident so upsets the rememberer and the &#8220;you&#8221; that, in fact, they do not engage the quotidian act referenced in the title: that is, lunch. What a wonderful poem!</p>
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